I have two questions if you would enlighten me on:
1. I largely agree with your description of the 'reasoning' behind the 5Ks, but is there an authoritative text that covers why each Kakkar is important for Khalsa Swaroop? As a response to when people ask this question.
2. In the summary, are you saying "Sikh Rehat Maryada <is> ... permeated with concessions"? Is this in reference to topics like meat, bhang, that have caused a stir within the Panth? Or other concessions?
(A) Bhai Jivan Singh's 'Gur Katha' mentions them as portals or a means to an end. Otherwise, research is ongoing.
(B) As far as Gurbani is concerned, meat isn't some deal-breaker. It should be jhatka and non-ritualistically slaughtered. Bhang as an addiction (not explicitly mentioned in the document), throwing ashes at Kiratpur etc these are the concessions.
There is infinity in awareness realms, but once one is so sure about others state, the ends of learning are achieved and further dialogue of learning can be made with so learned intellects.
Except war is our theology you're trying to push feminist liberalism & Sant Mat (Gyanis) as highest aspiration of Khalsa.
ਸੋਫੀ ਸ਼ੂੰਮ ਪੰਥ ਨਹਿ ਰਾਖਨ । ਕਿਯ ਕਿਸ ਦਾਰੁਨ ਕੇ ਅਭਿਲਾਖਨ । [The Guru commanded] "I will not keep misers and teetotalers in my Panth, [my Singhs] will have the desire for vicious warfare."
Shaheed Singh are highest & if having a 1.6TFR in line with Gurmat?
We know feminism crashes fertility & a high fertility is required for fighting.
I know you'll virtue signal and argue against this, but no one expects any better.
Actually, we don't believe in whatever demented imbecility you accuse us of believing in.
Secondly, historic Granths aren't exactly Gurbani (seeing that you missed that point) so whatever convoluted point you are trying to establish, it remains just that-convoluted.
Hard to comprehend where war for war's sake becomes a part of Sikh theology.
You sound like a hybrid between a Nihang wannabe and a woke individual.
Read more and maybe you will see that we see no difference between you "high on warfare" lot and the Sant Mat competition you deride.
Pretty cowardly of you to beat a retreat even before receiving a rejoinder,
"I know you'll virtue signal and argue against this, but no one expects any better."
Minor correction to your fantasy: "my kind" and not "no one expects any better."
We are quite interested to see who the "we" are here? Mighty warriors of your cult who are conquering Gurudwaras and suppressing land? Or your keyboard warrior clique?
"Shaheed Singh are highest & if having a 1.6TFR in line with Gurmat?
We know feminism crashes fertility & a high fertility is required for fighting."
What's this? Chavspeak?
The world is rapidly recalibrating itself. The patrician logjam has been nullified. The stance now might be of feminism impugning fertility in execution. But the issue can be overcome.
But throwing around high-end vocabulary to convey yourself as some intellectual is pretty easy.
How best would one describe the relationship between Guru Granth Sahib and rehat to someone who is enquiring about sikhi?
Rehat is the all important fundamental required to follow Gurbani. It adds a practical dimension to adhering to and following Gurbani.
ਸਲੋਕ ਮਃ ੪ ॥
ਅਗੋ ਦੇ ਸਤ ਭਾਉ ਨ ਦਿਚੈ ਪਿਛੋ ਦੇ ਆਖਿਆ ਕੰਮਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਅਧ ਵਿਚਿ ਫਿਰੈ ਮਨਮੁਖੁ ਵੇਚਾਰਾ ਗਲੀ ਕਿਉ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਵੈ ॥ ਜਿਸੁ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਿ ਨਹੀ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਸੁ ਕੂੜੀ ਆਵੈ ਕੂੜੀ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ ਜੇ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰੇ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਤਾਂ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਨਦਰੀ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਤਾ ਅਪਿਉ ਪੀਵੈ ਸਬਦੁ ਗੁਰ ਕੇਰਾ ਸਭੁ ਕਾੜਾ ਅੰਦੇਸਾ ਭਰਮੁ ਚੁਕਾਵੈ ॥ ਸਦਾ ਅਨੰਦਿ ਰਹੈ ਦਿਨੁ ਰਾਤੀ ਜਨ ਨਾਨਕ ਅਨਦਿਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵੈ ॥੧॥
*****
ਮਃ ੪ ॥
ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ ਉਦਮੁ ਕਰੇ ਭਲਕੇ ਪਰਭਾਤੀ ਇਸਨਾਨੁ ਕਰੇ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਰਿ ਨਾਵੈ ॥ ਉਪਦੇਸਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪੁ ਜਾਪੈ ਸਭਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਪਾਪ ਦੋਖ ਲਹਿ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ ਫਿਰਿ ਚੜੈ ਦਿਵਸੁ ਗੁਰਬਾਣੀ ਗਾਵੈ ਬਹਦਿਆ ਉਠਦਿਆ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ ਜੋ ਸਾਸਿ ਗਿਰਾਸਿ ਧਿਆਏ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਸੋ ਗੁਰਸਿਖੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਮਨਿ ਭਾਵੈ ॥ ਜਿਸ ਨੋ ਦਇਆਲੁ ਹੋਵੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਗੁਰੂ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਸੁਣਾਵੈ ॥ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਧੂੜਿ ਮੰਗੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਕੀ ਜੋ ਆਪਿ ਜਪੈ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥
*****
ਪਉੜੀ ॥
** ਜੋ ਤੁਧੁ ਸਚੁ ਧਿਆਇਦੇ ਸੇ ਵਿਰਲੇ ਥੋੜੇ ॥ **
ਜੋ ਮਨਿ ਚਿਤਿ ਇਕੁ ਅਰਾਧਦੇ ਤਿਨ ਕੀ ਬਰਕਤਿ ਖਾਹਿ ਅਸੰਖ ਕਰੋੜੇ ॥ ਤੁਧੁਨੋ ਸਭ ਧਿਆਇਦੀ ਸੇ ਥਾਇ ਪਏ ਜੋ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਲੋੜੇ ॥ ਜੋ ਬਿਨੁ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਸੇਵੇ ਖਾਦੇ ਪੈਨਦੇ ਸੇ ਮੁਏ ਮਰਿ ਜੰਮੇ ਕੋੜ੍ਹੇ ॥ ਓਇ ਹਾਜਰੁ ਮਿਠਾ ਬੋਲਦੇ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਵਿਸੁ ਕਢਹਿ ਮੁਖਿ ਘੋਲੇ ॥ ਮਨਿ ਖੋਟੇ ਦਯਿ ਵਿਛੋੜੇ ॥੧੧॥
(ਰਾਗੁ ਗਉੜੀ ਕੀ ਵਾਰ ਮਹਲਾ ੪ - ਅੰਗ ੩੦੫)
Another Rehit mentioned in Gurbani, and the truth told that the ones who MEDITATE ON THE TRUTH (NAAM) are rare!
Nice read, good work.
I have two questions if you would enlighten me on:
1. I largely agree with your description of the 'reasoning' behind the 5Ks, but is there an authoritative text that covers why each Kakkar is important for Khalsa Swaroop? As a response to when people ask this question.
2. In the summary, are you saying "Sikh Rehat Maryada <is> ... permeated with concessions"? Is this in reference to topics like meat, bhang, that have caused a stir within the Panth? Or other concessions?
Thanks.
Thank you for your inquiry.
(A) Bhai Jivan Singh's 'Gur Katha' mentions them as portals or a means to an end. Otherwise, research is ongoing.
(B) As far as Gurbani is concerned, meat isn't some deal-breaker. It should be jhatka and non-ritualistically slaughtered. Bhang as an addiction (not explicitly mentioned in the document), throwing ashes at Kiratpur etc these are the concessions.
ਧਰਮ ਖੰਡ ਕਾ ਏਹੋ ਧਰਮੁ॥
ਗਿਆਨ ਖੰਡ ਕਾ ਆਖਹੁ ਕਰਮੁ॥
For Spiritual Realm the way or Check is
Go to Knowledge Realm and than check for action.
ਗਿਆਨ ਖੰਡ ਮਹਿ ਗਿਆਨੁ ਪਰਚੰਡੁ॥
ਤਿਥੈ ਨਾਦ ਬਿਨੋਦ ਕੋਡ ਅਨੰਦੁ॥
And in knowledge realm check for inner awareness, of life origins.
We are sure even you don't understand whatever it is you are quoting yourself.
ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਸਿਫਤੀ ਕਹਣਿ ਨ ਅੰਤੁ॥
ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਕਰਣੈ ਦੇਣਿ ਨ ਅੰਤੁ॥
ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਵੇਖਣਿ ਸੁਣਣਿ ਨ ਅੰਤੁ॥
ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਪੈ ਕਿਆ ਮਨਿ ਮੰਤੁ॥
ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਪੈ ਕੀਤਾ ਆਕਾਰੁ॥
ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਪੈ ਪਾਰਾਵਾਰੁ॥
ਅੰਤ ਕਾਰਣਿ ਕੇਤੇ ਬਿਲਲਾਹਿ॥
ਤਾ ਕੇ ਅੰਤ ਨ ਪਾਏ ਜਾਹਿ॥
ਏਹੁ ਅੰਤੁ ਨ ਜਾਣੈ ਕੋਇ॥
ਬਹੁਤਾ ਕਹੀਐ ਬਹੁਤਾ ਹੋਇ॥
ਵਡਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਊਚਾ ਥਾਉ॥
ਊਚੇ ਉਪਰਿ ਊਚਾ ਨਾਉ॥
ਏਵਡੁ ਊਚਾ ਹੋਵੈ ਕੋਇ॥
ਤਿਸੁ ਊਚੇ ਕਉ ਜਾਣੈ ਸੋਇ॥
ਜੇਵਡੁ ਆਪਿ ਜਾਣੈ ਆਪਿ ਆਪਿ॥
ਨਾਨਕ ਨਦਰੀ ਕਰਮੀ ਦਾਤਿ॥ ੨੪॥
There is infinity in awareness realms, but once one is so sure about others state, the ends of learning are achieved and further dialogue of learning can be made with so learned intellects.
They serve multiple purposes. But from a theological perspective, it is often the ideological justification which is highlighted.
Except war is our theology you're trying to push feminist liberalism & Sant Mat (Gyanis) as highest aspiration of Khalsa.
ਸੋਫੀ ਸ਼ੂੰਮ ਪੰਥ ਨਹਿ ਰਾਖਨ । ਕਿਯ ਕਿਸ ਦਾਰੁਨ ਕੇ ਅਭਿਲਾਖਨ । [The Guru commanded] "I will not keep misers and teetotalers in my Panth, [my Singhs] will have the desire for vicious warfare."
Shaheed Singh are highest & if having a 1.6TFR in line with Gurmat?
We know feminism crashes fertility & a high fertility is required for fighting.
I know you'll virtue signal and argue against this, but no one expects any better.
ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕਾਖਾਲਸਾ।।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ।।
Actually, we don't believe in whatever demented imbecility you accuse us of believing in.
Secondly, historic Granths aren't exactly Gurbani (seeing that you missed that point) so whatever convoluted point you are trying to establish, it remains just that-convoluted.
Hard to comprehend where war for war's sake becomes a part of Sikh theology.
You sound like a hybrid between a Nihang wannabe and a woke individual.
Read more and maybe you will see that we see no difference between you "high on warfare" lot and the Sant Mat competition you deride.
Pretty cowardly of you to beat a retreat even before receiving a rejoinder,
"I know you'll virtue signal and argue against this, but no one expects any better."
Minor correction to your fantasy: "my kind" and not "no one expects any better."
We are quite interested to see who the "we" are here? Mighty warriors of your cult who are conquering Gurudwaras and suppressing land? Or your keyboard warrior clique?
"Shaheed Singh are highest & if having a 1.6TFR in line with Gurmat?
We know feminism crashes fertility & a high fertility is required for fighting."
What's this? Chavspeak?
The world is rapidly recalibrating itself. The patrician logjam has been nullified. The stance now might be of feminism impugning fertility in execution. But the issue can be overcome.
But throwing around high-end vocabulary to convey yourself as some intellectual is pretty easy.
Don't care will just stab you. :shrug:
Expected nothing better from an amli.